props

November 4th, 2008 at 4:25 AM

since we have a president debate. why not the propositions, too? i'd like to read where everyone stands on them.
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_j.htm

my votes go as follows w/ reasons:

prop 1a: no - although i would love that SOMEDAY, i don't feel like paying MORE taxes for it.
prop 2 - yes - i don't care how much more i have to pay for groceries. i can not stand the thought of animals being treated horribly.
prop 3 - yes - i'll be surprised if this doesn't pass. anything for the children, right?
prop 4 - yes - parents should be parents, and they should know what is happening in their child's life. parents need to be more involved these days.
prop 5 - im unsure about this. i'm leaning more towards no.
prop 6 - yes but no. i'll probably vote no, because it all comes down to the taxes i'd have to pay. eff that.
prop 7 - yes - renewable energy ftw.
prop 8 - no - i don't give a shit who marries who.
prop 9 - not sure on this one either.
prop 10 - no - i don't think this is priority right now, but we definitely need to head in this direction a couple of years from now.
prop 11 - no - politics is confusing enough. is this really neccessary?
prop 12 - yes - i see no harm, really.

November 4th, 2008 at 3:19 PM

I'm pretty much agreeing with you on everything.

November 4th, 2008 at 3:30 PM

That's wayy too much to read right now, but I'll get around to it. Seems like something I'd be interested in. ^_^

November 4th, 2008 at 5:27 PM

Originally posted by suzisaurus_rex

That's wayy too much to read right now, but I'll get around to it. Seems like something I'd be interested in. ^_^

November 4th, 2008 at 5:28 PM

and i seriously thought more people were going to get more into this. :[

fail.

November 4th, 2008 at 5:31 PM

lol nonsence

November 4th, 2008 at 5:33 PM

git.

November 4th, 2008 at 7:22 PM

They're California state-specific!

I actually read through all of them, and I agreed with all of your choices. I was hoping we could debate about it, too.

November 4th, 2008 at 8:43 PM

oh yeah. i forgot to mention that, paul. it IS for california state. but i thought it would be obvious. i still want everyone's views on it lol.

November 4th, 2008 at 8:48 PM

The only one I cared enough to read about was proposal 08. I agree with your decision. I have four gay uncles, two of them were married yesterday in Cali after being together for 36 years.
I like this topic...but you have far too many props on your ballot for me to read, so I'll just do Michigan's. ;D

http://cruzweb.net/2008/10/20/2008-michigan-ballot-proposals/

proposal 01. Hell yes. I have a plethora of reasons.
proposal 02. Yes. If it can help people, I don't see why not.

November 4th, 2008 at 9:01 PM

Originally posted by boredom_killz

since we have a president debate. why not the propositions, too? i'd like to read where everyone stands on them.
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_j.htm

my votes go as follows w/ reasons:

prop 1a: no - although i would love that SOMEDAY, i don't feel like paying MORE taxes for it.
prop 2 - yes - i don't care how much more i have to pay for groceries. i can not stand the thought of animals being treated horribly.
prop 3 - yes - i'll be surprised if this doesn't pass. anything for the children, right?
prop 4 - yes - parents should be parents, and they should know what is happening in their child's life. parents need to be more involved these days.
prop 5 - im unsure about this. i'm leaning more towards no.
prop 6 - yes but no. i'll probably vote no, because it all comes down to the taxes i'd have to pay. eff that.
prop 7 - yes - renewable energy ftw.
prop 8 - no - i don't give a shit who marries who.
prop 9 - not sure on this one either.
prop 10 - no - i don't think this is priority right now, but we definitely need to head in this direction a couple of years from now.
prop 11 - no - politics is confusing enough. is this really neccessary?
prop 12 - yes - i see no harm, really.

November 4th, 2008 at 9:06 PM

And what's wrong with having adopted grand kids? I don't have a kid....nor do I ever really want one, but I know for a fact if I ever had a kid I'd much rather have them be happy and feel completely comfortable being who they are and with who they love no matter what.

November 4th, 2008 at 9:08 PM

i dont mind voting no on prop 8 just keep the shit outta schools until around high school..thats all im asking...i don't need my little boy with another boy possibly on the way asking me why one man is kissing another and why im not...i would be have tempted to knock his ass down a few notches

November 4th, 2008 at 9:10 PM

Isn't it your responsibility as a parent to help your kids understand the world around them? You can't prevent people from being gay in public...and making gay marriage possible isn't going to affect that either.

November 4th, 2008 at 9:13 PM

Originally posted by boogers

Isn't it your responsibility as a parent to help your kids understand the world around them? You can't prevent people from being gay in public...and making gay marriage possible isn't going to affect that either.

November 4th, 2008 at 9:16 PM

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I'm bowing out before i get ugly ;D

November 4th, 2008 at 9:19 PM

get ugly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

November 4th, 2008 at 9:22 PM

I'd rather not waste my time.

November 4th, 2008 at 9:25 PM

Originally posted by fire_and_ice

Originally posted by boogers

Isn't it your responsibility as a parent to help your kids understand the world around them? You can't prevent people from being gay in public...and making gay marriage possible isn't going to affect that either.

it may not affect it but if prop 8 passes its sure the hell gonna hinder it....and according to the bible a marriage is between a man and a women thats why its adam and eve not adam and steve

November 4th, 2008 at 10:18 PM

dude. stfu. i have a kid, and i don't mind letting people of the same sex get married. look at it this way. America. Free country, right?! Who are we to say who they can/can't love and/or marry?

November 4th, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Originally posted by fire_and_ice

Originally posted by boredom_killz

since we have a president debate. why not the propositions, too? i'd like to read where everyone stands on them.
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/elections_j.htm

my votes go as follows w/ reasons:

prop 1a: no - although i would love that SOMEDAY, i don't feel like paying MORE taxes for it.
prop 2 - yes - i don't care how much more i have to pay for groceries. i can not stand the thought of animals being treated horribly.
prop 3 - yes - i'll be surprised if this doesn't pass. anything for the children, right?
prop 4 - yes - parents should be parents, and they should know what is happening in their child's life. parents need to be more involved these days.
prop 5 - im unsure about this. i'm leaning more towards no.
prop 6 - yes but no. i'll probably vote no, because it all comes down to the taxes i'd have to pay. eff that.
prop 7 - yes - renewable energy ftw.
prop 8 - no - i don't give a shit who marries who.
prop 9 - not sure on this one either.
prop 10 - no - i don't think this is priority right now, but we definitely need to head in this direction a couple of years from now.
prop 11 - no - politics is confusing enough. is this really neccessary?
prop 12 - yes - i see no harm, really.

you obviously don't have kids, but i believe that its inappropriate for my 6 year old son to think that its ok to kiss another boy on the mouth or more...and i would rather my daughters not be a bunch of carpet munchers...i do want grand kids you know...

November 4th, 2008 at 10:33 PM

I voted NO on the marriage, who cares who marries who? As long they aren't animals orr aliens whats it our buisness? SERIOUSLYYYY.

November 4th, 2008 at 10:40 PM

Originally posted by fire_and_ice

you obviously don't have kids, but i believe that its inappropriate for my 6 year old son to think that its ok to kiss another boy on the mouth or more...and i would rather my daughters not be a bunch of carpet munchers...i do want grand kids you know...

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November 4th, 2008 at 11:44 PM

Marriage is a religious ceremony and therefor should be decided by different religions not the government. So if one religion says gay marriage is okay, then go for it. I do believe in civil unions, every couple should have equal same rights.

November 5th, 2008 at 12:03 AM

I've always found it ridiculous to base your religion on differentiating factors that only pertain to that of our current lifestyle(s)... Religion is to save ones self from whatever form of damnation that awaits them in the afterlife. It shouldn't be based on what we want or need in the physical realm...

That's why religions have set guidelines and laws to follow by. It's not for us to choose or alter those principles just so we feel comfortable in our everyday lives. Why you must make sacrifices in life to achieve that which will obtain you passage into whatever form of paradise awaits you.

Why I brought this up? I don't know... I'll just exit out of this thread now...